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程建平、刘仲奎共话新时代高校对口支援 | 两会E政录

发布时间:2019-03-11 来源:中国民族教育微信公众号

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时间:2019年3月8日 15:30

嘉宾:全国政协委员 北京师范大学党委书记 程建平

全国政协委员 西北师范大学校长 刘仲奎

主持人:中国民族教育杂志总编辑 赵小雅

赵小雅:大家好,这里是中国教育报刊社“两会E政录”,我是主持人《中国民族教育》杂志总编辑赵小雅。

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对口支援对提升中西部高校办学水平意义重大

赵小雅:程书记,据我们了解,北京师范大学作为“对口支援西部地区高等学校计划”的首批参与学校,目前对口支援的学校有青海师范大学、西北师范大学等学校,为了让大家了解支援学校的工作,您能具体介绍一下北京师范大学在对口支援工作中的思路与做法吗?

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赵小雅:刘校长,西北师范大学作为甘肃省人民政府和教育部共建的重点大学,也是首批确定的被支援学校,您觉得高校对口支援,对受援学校的发展起到了什么样的作用?带来了哪些方面的变化?

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赵小雅:您现在还是北京师范大学的兼职教授吗?

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切实拓展高校对口支援的高度深度广度

赵小雅:程书记,高校对口支援工作是国家西部大开发战略的重要组成部分,您怎么认识与理解这项工作?您从支援方高校的角度看,在哪些方面重点发力才能更好地起到助推受援高校发展的作用?下一步学校在支援工作中有什么思路?

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赵小雅:对西北师大也会用这种组团支援的形式方式支援吗?或者除了青海师范大学以外还要支援别的学校吗?

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赵小雅:下面想问刘校长,作为被援助的高校,需要支援学校在哪些方面施以援助,才是我们真正需要的?

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赵小雅:刘校长,对口支援只是一个西部高校发展的助推力。您从西部高校管理者的角度看,西部高校的发展还需要哪些支持?除了对口支援的问题,还有哪些最迫切需要解决的问题?

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赵小雅:西北师大现在的情况怎样呢?

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赵小雅:您觉得作为受援学校,提升“造血”功能,应该做哪些工作?

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赵小雅:请问程书记,北京师范大学实施了这么多年的对口支援的工作,通过实践,您对这项工作有什么建议?从实际工作的角度看,如何做才能让这项工作达到预期效果?

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赵小雅:刘校长,同样的问题,您作为受援学校,作为西部高校的一名校长,您对高校对口支援这项政策有什么自己的理解认识和建议?

湖北快3LIUZHONGKUI:WOYOUSANDIANJIANYI。

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赵小雅:非常感谢刘校长和程书记的分享和交流。通过两位代表的分享与交流,我们了解了作为支援方与受援方,北京师范大学和西北师范大学在这项工作中所付出的智慧与努力,也了解了高校对口支援工作在促进区域间高等教育协调发展,进而服务国家战略方面的重要意义。

湖北快3FEICHANGGANXIECHENGSHUJIHELIUXIAOZHANGJINTIANLAIDAOWOMENDEYANBOSHI,YEGANXIEGEWEISHOUKAN,JINTIANDEZHIBOJIUDAOZHEILI。ZAIJIAN!

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